Veterans wanted to work at military exchanges downrange

If you are a veteran who would like to return to the Middle East, the Army & Air Force Exchange Service, or AAFES, may have a job for you.


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This article was originally authored by Patricia Kime and posted on July 18, 2019 by Military.com. You can find the original, here.

If you are a veteran who would like to return to the Middle East, the Army & Air Force Exchange Service, or AAFES, may have a job for you.

AAFES is currently recruiting veterans for jobs “downrange.” Right now, jobs are open in Kuwait, but positions frequently come available in 41 stores in eight countries in the Middle East, including Iraq and Afghanistan.

Current openings include safety and security managerial positions, courier, logistics technicians and service business technicians.

According to AAFES, salary is commensurate with experience and, although the jobs start at $33,000 for salaried positions and range between $11 and $22 an hour, downrange employees get free housing and meals at installation dining facilities.

Deployments can last from six months to a year, with an option to extend to two years. After a deployment, employees are eligible to apply for other jobs within the system.

“When the exchange hires veterans for downrange assignments, these former service members draw on the same strong work ethic, commitment and loyalty they used to serve our country,” said AAFES senior enlisted adviser Air Force Chief Master Sgt. Luis Reyes. “Many have already served downrange.”

AAFES officials said veterans who have held security clearances are highly desired because they can be employed more quickly than employees who need background checks.

The Navy Exchange Service and Marine Corps Exchange each have job openings, but none are in active areas of operations. Information on downrange jobs at AAFES can be found at its website. NEX jobs are posted at its site, and the Marine Corps Exchange advertises its openings through the individual stores’ websites.

AAFES Jobs  Marine Corps Exchange Jobs  Navy Exchange Jobs

Leroy Elliott, who served in Vietnam, is the service business manager in Kuwait. “The work is challenging and the days are long,” he said in a news release. “It’s all worth it when we can bring a little bit of home to the men and women who are putting themselves in harm’s way and serving our country.”

This article was originally authored by Patricia Kime and posted on July 18th, 2019 by Military.com. You can find the original, here.

Author

Tim Hudak

  joined the VA in December 2013 and is on the Veterans Experience Office team. Tim, a Chicago-land native enlisted in the Marine Corps straight out of high school. As an intelligence analyst he deployed to Al Anbar province, Iraq with Marine Heavy Helicopter Squadron 363 in 2006 and 2008. After the Marine Corps, Tim used the GI Bill to earn a degree in Intelligence Studies from Mercyhurst University in Erie, Pa., and co-founded the university’s first student Veteran organization. Tim is active in many Veteran organizations.

Comments

  1. roger reed    

    would like to apply for the exchange jobs over seas in Kuwait

  2. Billy G Summers    

    Would like to know about current position anywhere. I am considered 100% permanent and total disabled due to PTSD.Otherwise healthy . College graduate

  3. Vernon Boggs    

    Do you hire Vets who not only disabled but almost 60 years old?

  4. Elise Al-Sharif    

    https://sjobs.brassring.com/TGnewUI/Search/Home/Home?partnerid=25212&siteid=6075#home

    You have to go to this link. They all require a BA, even the $11.25 per hour sales clerk.

  5. Shane Kanode    

    For everyone that can’t read the job position descriptions. There are many jobs at the Exchange, PX, Furniture, Food services, and so on. I started here… https://sjobs.brassring.com/TGnewUI/Search/Home/Home?partnerid=25212&siteid=6059#home

  6. Donald E. Worthington    

    I am a Vietnam era Vet. I had a secret security clearance. I have never been to the middle east. Would I be a good prospect for a position?

  7. James Mcgurk    

    Hey, got out in “57 hmm, 85 n doc gave me 5 mo yrs. When he told me that, thought I’d get couple of hookers n celebrate. Prbly live longer with job over der.

    1. Patrick Muita Machayo    

      Serving those who are serving. Amazing Grace.

    2. Chris B    

      You should have used the GI Bill to take some basic English grammar classes….

  8. Charly Sandoval    

    33k a year to be away???? LOL!

  9. Dave Densmore    

    I see this as a great opportunity for veteran retirees like myself. It becomes supplemental income and a chance to serve in some capacity again. However, I’m still married and don’t see myself dragging my wife along with me, or her wanting to go, and I’m sure not leaving her behind. If I was single, I’d try it, maybe even extend if it went well.

  10. Anthony maceli    

    As a veteran and worked for 4 years overseas ! I used to make close to 200k a year. Yes my job was not inside the wire and not every one can do what ican. But As a veteran this pay chart of 11 to 21 dollars an hour working in dangerous country,s. risking your life by the hour, Separated from your family if you have one! is actually INSULTING by AFFES. This is a joke no wonder no one is applying.

  11. Jee Ward    

    The pay is low, but I believe you will have no housing or food costs to worry about. Not sure about taxes. I remember them using the chow hall when I was there. (Iraq).

  12. Sid b    

    Working in Saudi with per firm and perks plus salary

  13. Charles Howard    

    My last government position GS11, series 0101

  14. Nelson Lugo Jr    

    How do I find jobs to at an exchange in Iraq, or Afghanistan? I was a aviation supply NCOIC, and still remember a lot from my Marine Corps years. I performed Stock Control, Supply Screening, Technical Edit Verification of Documentation, Warehousing, Aviation Supply Accounting, and other supply functions.

  15. Steven Belflower    

    Not sure how you figured this but you need to go back to school and learn how to multiply!

  16. Bruce    

    Since I have a M.S. degree in physics with some original theoretical physics papers; I would like to teach in the Southeast Asian bases. Siapan or Guam sounds good to me. Of course, my next choice is Europe. My first choice is the Philippines, but I don’t know much about the present situation there. I did spend 22 months in the Philippines recently. Then I spent 1 month in Thailand with good reception from common people. So, Thailand would be my second choice would be Thailand. Thanks
    Bruce Kidd

    1. Olumide A Akinyemi    

      With your M.S degree and interested in working in Asia or Europe, USAJOBS.gov will be your best bet.

    2. richard    

      22 an hour x 9 hour day x 180 days = around 35k so whats wrong?

    3. Bruce Kidd    

      I’m really tired of you not answering…
      I guess I’ll consider it a farce…
      Bruce Kidd

  17. Joshua Armstrong    

    Are there any jobs in the Philippines or anything that’s close to the Philippines?

  18. Bruce    

    I’m Bruce Kidd and was in the Army 10/29/71 until 10/18/74 discharged honorably. I have a Master’s of Science degree in physics, cum laude. I’ve done some original work in physics.

  19. Russell Bell    

    I’m a veteran and a retired Respiratory therapist . Can I get work overseas ? Preferably non combact zone .

    1. Olumide A Akinyemi    

      Russell, the military has clinics and hospitals in Europe and their vacancies are advertised on USAJOBS.gov

  20. Joe Grunt    

    11/hr is not 69k a year based on 40 hour work week. It’s $22,280. Check your math please.

    1. Joe Grunt    

      Sorry. Didn’t see your reply Tim. Cheers.

  21. david baum    

    Most of the posts here show an incredible amount of STUPID! I sure wouldn’t hire most of these dolts.

  22. Clifford Ward Bennett182    

    please send more details and information thank you

  23. Roger Bergen    

    Army supply, staff sgt 2yr. Great health. Do you have age limits?

  24. Michael G Jones    

    This is all well and good however, I do not see a web site to put in an application,

  25. Alfred A. Greenya    

    Being a Navy Veteran from 69 To 72 South East Asia I think it would be an Honor to help our country in any way I can. I live By the MOTTO of the late Commander and Chief John F. Kennedy It’s Not What Your Country Can Do For You It’s What You Can Do For Your Country…

  26. Tim Myers    

    Sorry. Last post had $ figures waay off. $11/hr @ 40 hr week = $23k/year. All the rest remains the same.

    $11/hr @ 8hrs & 7 days a week worked = $32k/year.

  27. Tim Myers    

    FYI:

    $11/hr @ 8 hours/day @ 5 days/wk = $69,000/yr before taxes. Normal work day OCONUS = 12 hour day, 7 days/wk (security contractor). $11/hr @ 12 hours/day @ 5 days/wk = $103,000/yr before taxes. If one worked 12 hrs/day & 7 days a week salary would be $144,000/yr. At $22/hr double the above figures.

    Last time I checked, a person can withhold taxes from gross pay earned OCONUS if they stay out of the continental US for 11 non-consecutive months in a 12 month period (any 12 month period). So if you take your break after, say 6 months, in Europe and do another 5 months of work OCONUS, your paycheck would not be taxed…. up to the first $85,000 income. 😉 The rest is taxable. ;(

    Depending on how many hours per week and how many days per week you work can significantly impact your (contracted) salary.

    To put it in perspective, a high threat security operator in a high threat area (Iraq/Afghanistan) working for DoS on contract makes about $120-$145 / year (12hrs/day, 7 days/wk; two 6 mo tours with a 2 week break between tours). Accomidations generally (depending on location is a “conex box” (metal shipping container) converted to be a 2 room, 2 pers per room with a shared shower/bathroom between the rooms. Food is generally pretty darn good in the dining facilities.

    I would imagine these offered jobs would be at a bigger base, not small remote bases. Larger bases are bigger targets for bad guys, but that being said; they would normally fire a few mortars (or a rocket fired at the general direction of the base) and run away. Most bases have cement/sandbag bunkers strategically placed around all bases in case of attack; and most bases have a hospital. Bigger the base; bigger the hospital/capabilities. Internet is probably the biggest challenge; but largely depends on the base & operations at the base (Warlock jamming occasionally – few bases). Used to be at the mercy of the local providers, but believe it has improved – again depends in the base size, organization operating control of the base (DoD/DoS or other) and security neccessary to protect the base.

      1. Randy Horne    

        You want to run that by us again.
        $11 x 8hr = $88.00 a day x 5 days(YOUR DAY) = $440.00 wk x 52 wks = $22,880.00 yr.
        I think I will also pass on ur tax info.

    1. monica masters    

      Wouldn’t it be a little more because of overtime pay?

    2. Ron Allerton    

      I believe your math is significantly in error.

      $11/hr x 8 hr/day x 5 days/week = $440/week
      $440/week x 52 weeks a year = $22,880/year not ANYWHERE near $69,00/year

      $11/hr x 12 hr/day x 5 days/week = $660/week
      $660/week x 52 weeks a year = $34,320/year not ANYWHERE near your assertion of $103,000/year

      Same goes for the third calculation.

      What math are you using??

      1. Blaise Schmidt    

        Basically, multiply the hourly rate x 2080, which equates to 1 FTE. OT is time and a half.

    3. Elisabeth Oie    

      Dude, you need to recheck your math.

      1. Chris B    

        It’s called Wishful Thinking math….

    4. Chris B    

      “$11/hr @ 8 hours/day @ 5 days/wk = $69,000/yr” Since when is there 157 weeks in a year???

  28. Wally D Basarab    

    do you have any openings in Ukraine?

  29. James Allen    

    To everyone putting up your mini-resumes and quals; this article and its author are not the recruiting agents for the jobs. You have to click the linked buttons at the end of the article to find available jobs and begin the application process for them.

    Placing your quals and achievements here does absolutely nothing and no one from AAFES nor the VA will contact you about the jobs.

    Click the linked buttons and submit your applications and resumes!

    1. Elisabeth Oie    

      Lol, dont tell them. Thats how you weed out the tards

  30. Mario Marcelle    

    This is a very tempting proposition. But I currently make about twice the listed salary amount. In this scenario, the juice just wouldn’t be worth the squeeze. I understand that this is a beginning salary, but (just some advice) if you raise the starting salary, you may get more applicants.

    For young, daring, and desperate individuals, this may be a viable temporary solution. But for those that are well-integrated into civilian society, yet looking for an overseas excursion, this may not be it. There are some missing pieces to this puzzle (for me at least).

    I would love to return to Kuwait and Iraq, where I served honorably, but the financial piece just has to be there. I just need to ensure that there is no loss financially. I can deal with the hazards of overseas duty, but it wouldn’t make sense to my checkbook. Again, more juice for the effort is needed.

    1. Scott Harris    

      Good thing you are not the only available option for the job.

    2. SoMuchBetter ThanYou    

      Mario,

      Although your analysis has some merit, your delivery is laughable to say the least. You provide superfluous comments such as “I currently make about twice the listed salary amounts” and “Kuwait and Iraq, where I served honorably,” when such comments are unnecessary and are clearly attempts at stroking your own ego. It’s clear you state your purported status as a platform of credibility to dispense advice and arguably judgment regarding the advertisement. However, your own quasi-resume is considered pathetic at best.

      I don’t typically make a public show of status, but I feel it’s needed to show you how irrelevant you and your opinions are.

      Objective speaking, I make approximately 4 times YOUR salary. You say you served honorably in Kuwait and Iraq. Kuwait was a joke. Nothing more than a staging point for military operations in the Middle East. In addition, no one who actually fought in Iraq actually says they “served honorably” in Iraq. We simply say “we were there.” Qualifying statements such as “serving honorably” are mere word play to make your sad idea of military service more deserving of praise.

      It’s clear to me that you’re taking what I consider to be a very disappointing standard of success and putting it on an impractical pedestal. Let this response serve as a message to you’re in no position to look down on this advertisement or anyone interested in joining.

    3. Juris Prudence    

      Amid all the sarcasm and snark, nostalgia kicked in as I thought of all the prim and polished professionals (EPR code for Pompous, Condescending Punks) I encountered on Active Duty. You know know the type, Always HAD to speak when protocol would dictate respectable silence. Glad to see you all have found a hobby being miserable towards others online. God Bless your Sorry Asses. If I look through my old pictures, Im sure I could find one or fifty that would resemble each of you. No, really… Im so excited by the nauseating asshattery you bring to EVERYTHING. #CarryOn #FullMetalJacketJokers

  31. gerald SUTTON    

    I have had a secret security clearance. I’m retired military and retired from another county government job.. I last used the security clearance in 1998. What are the rules on pets?

  32. K B    

    Its possible….Please forward more information. Thanks

  33. Deborah O SlaterBlackwell    

    Can a disable veteran with a walker apply to Germany, a base on Canada or Alaska

  34. jim    

    Anybody who is posting their information here, thinking that by posting here, somebody is going to call and offer them a job, has automatically disqualified themselves from consideration.

    Come on people, is that the best you can do?

    AAFES wants you to apply at their website. If you can’t figure out how to apply for their jobs, how are you planning on surviving downrange?

  35. Victor Montez    

    Could you please give link to apply for a job over seas.

  36. Charles M. DeGross    

    I’m a 70 year old attorney USMC vet. Excellent physical condition, do I qualify for any position based on my age?

  37. Elsie Carlson    

    I work as a County Veteran service officer. I am a 10 year Army Veteran and would love the opportunity to service anywhere overseas.

  38. Jeffrey Crowe    

    Hello I am a veteran and an RN I am interested in an overseas opportunity.

  39. Frank Richardson    

    Telecommunications engineer (OSP) 20 years of experience
    Civil Engineers degree.

  40. Benita B.    

    Between $11-$22 hourly, plus Housing and Meals at the Installation Dining Facilities. Can someone provide feedback on the housing conditions and meals?

    1. Dairel Freeman    

      I am a Vietnam era combat vet Marine corps (1965-1966 ) I have worked in the bar business as a bartender and door checker. I also have been a vehicle driver and did deliveries. I am 76 years old now but would like to work on a military base overseas or in USA. I do use an electric wheel chair but can walk some. If there is anything available for me I am Interested.

  41. Reynaldo Ahmed Torres    

    I am interested in participating in a job abroad. I am highly qualified, I have a Master’s degree in Counseling and Psychology.

    1. mandy o.    

      Torres, on usajob.gov there are tons of jobs listed in all of Europe.

  42. Askari.martin    

    Yes i am a veteran that would like to go back overseas and work in areas like Europe or Germany please let me know if theres any openings for those type of jobs.Thanks Askari

  43. William H. Loman Jr    

    Retired 1stSgt, USMC, Vietnam and Desert Storm
    Retired GS 13 Environmental Manager
    Chief Environmental Division, US Army, Camp Zama, Japan
    Served 13 months as Environmental Officer, Camp Bondsteel, Kosovo 2008/09
    MCCS Club Operations, Assistant Manager
    MCCS Maintenance Administration Supervisor
    USMC Hazardous a waste Management Supervisor
    US Navy Environmental Management Section Supervisor
    BS Environmental Managemen, Minor in Safety

    Willing to accept any position qualified for, GS 9 or above.

  44. doug ebert    

    Hi Mr. Hudak, Doug Ebert here. Navy vet, served in Vietnam, graduated from Mercyhurst in 1980 with business degree. Finished up in USPS in 2010. now retired in Ecuador. Just wondering about options in military exchanges in the Middle East.

  45. James Dickey    

    Hello,
    I am a veteran of the Vietnam Era who works at Jess Brown V A medical center in Chicago, I also worked on the PTSD inpatient unit for James Lovell VA Medical center in Waukegan I’ll. I work as a Rehab Technician in the Out Patient Mental Health Department. I would like more information about how a veteran can get training and a job working overseas. I am Service Connected with 100% for PTSD and I do Vietnam Veterans group, WW11 Veterans group along with 8 more group I facilitate. Please send information so I can inform veteran who would to travel as well as get a job.

  46. Andrea E. Gutierrez    

    Great idea. I went Down Range three times. But have ended up 100% Service Connected Disabled. But I really appreciated the Exchange at Tuzla AB Bosnia. Went there every day just t to walk around and break the monotony. If Icould still wlk and stand, Id like a tour down range again.

  47. Russell Adkins    

    You want Veterans to go back to some Godforsaken 3rd world flea infested CamelJockey Sand (redacted) furnace for 33,000 a year? Are you out of your mind? Tell me, do they also get the pleasure of small arms fire and the occasional rocket or mortar attack? Sounds tempting……but not in a million years.

    1. Jeff G    

      I always wonder why the “veteran jobs” are entry level with crap pay.

      1. Will    

        You are so right on

      2. Ananda    

        Because they know that we have been paid so low in our career as military members & know for sure they will find veterans (who either have nothing to loose, have for a reason problems living in the States or try to run away from a situation they’re in, have still friends over there, misses the military environment, or are homeless) and know they will be capable to fill these positions for hardly nothing by taking advantage of our patriotism!
        Sad, truly sad!

      3. John Hopkins    

        That isn’t entirely true. I left the Army as a Sergeant (E-5), and walked right into a GS-12 position with the DOD civil service. I had 10 years in the Army and “bought it back” to apply toward my civil service pension. Now I am a GS-14 with 28 years of federal service (Due to my buy back).

        The key is to know what you want, and to spend a a month or two (Seriously) making your resume perfect. I ALWAYS am offered an interview when I apply for a transfer or promotion. Also, I have never applied for a promotion within the command that I am already working at. This mean that people who do not know me are choosing me based solely on my resume and my interview performance, versus being promoted within the command, where someone can do so if they kiss enough tail.

  48. Alice Thomas    

    I’m a disabled Veteran, I require the use of a walker and a cane.

    I do not wish to waste anyone’s time by applying for a position, so I’m asking should I apply even though I require the use of a walker and a cane.

    1. Blaise Schmidt    

      You have to understand the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). Also, you must understand that AAFES must provide reasonable accommodations for disabilities. Each job assignment is different so accommodations will be different

  49. William Armioia    

    I have a back ground of many useful items feel free to aak

  50. William Armioia    

    I’m a veteran from 77 and am interested if I can be assistance

  51. Richard Woodward Stephenson    

    Love the opportunity to work with your company.

  52. Maximo Flores    

    I’m ready to go to work right now ready to serve my country again my son was killed in a refueling accident and he will corny December 6th 2018 so I am ready to get back and serve my country again thank you and I will look forward to hearing from you please hire me right away I don’t know big discharged veteran

  53. Maximo Flores    

    Please hire me right away I am ready to get hired and serve the military right now I served in the Marine Corps and the logistic feel so I will be a perfect fit thank you

  54. Raymond H Lee    

    Is there an age cut off for any of these jobs?

  55. Joseph A. Forant    

    I a USMC Retired Vietnam Veteran, working in the Middle East would definitely fit into my current Life, I have had up to and including Top Secret clearances, my work was Air Operations.

  56. Irvine J Sandlin    

    Just wondering, would like to be able to do some sort of work.

  57. Irvine J Sandlin    

    Can a 65 year old vet whose MOS was a 63c, in the military and a surface coal miner as a civilian for 39 yrs, be considered for any job at all in the middle east?

  58. Frankie B    

    I received this email concerning these programs and looks like there is opportunity out there for those of us Veterans who still would like to serve our country…

    Thanks for the email

    Sincerely
    Frankie Bianco
    Former
    USAF

  59. Joe Miller    

    Is there an age restriction ? And how does someone apply ?

  60. Wes Mario    

    11 dollars an hour what a joke.

  61. Park Hensley    

    Is there a maximum age to be considered?

  62. Matthew Snodgrass    

    How do you find the middle east jobs I clicked on all the links and looked through everything I can’t find any middle east listings.

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